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Neuspješan pokušaj prevare - Paypal i Njuškalo

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Neuspješan pokušaj prevare - Paypal i Njuškalo

Postby damirb » October 11th, 2014, 8:40 am

Naslov bi mogao i biti Kako sam prevario varalicu :D
Long story ...
Pokušat ću što točnije prenesti neuspješan pokušaj prevare koji mi se desio zadnjih par dana, kao pouku drugima da izbjegavaju takve "prodaje".
Dakle sve je počelo tako što prodajem svoj motocikl preko Njuškala.
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Dakle vidljiva je cijena ... i osnovni podaci ... kao i da je oglas već dugo aktivan ... tj nije prodan.
Sad počinje zanimljivi dio ...
Stiže mi SMS poruka (sa broja +46737494630) "zainteresiranog kupca" na engleskom da ga kontaktiram na e-mail adresu romeojefter1@gmail.com .
Inače google već "pozna" taj broj ... https://www.google.hr/?gws_rd=ssl#newwi ... 6737494630 ... Rusian scamer ... ruski prevaranti
Ako nazovete taj broj ... operater vam javlja poruku "nazvali ste nepostojeći broj"
ZNAČI LIK ŠALJE SMS SA LAŽNOG BROJA
Ovdje je vidljivo da je već pokušavao prevare sa tog broja ... http://www.ruscammer.com/0046737494577/index.html ... izgleda da je i uspio (po nekim ljutim komentarima)
Pošaljem mu e- mail u stilu šta ga interesira? .
Kopija prvog njegovog e-maila:

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Thanks for your response.Am interested in buying. How long have you
owned it ?  what's your actual price for it ?.


Odgovorim mu da sam 2 vlasnik već sedam godina i ponovim cijenu ... iako je jasno vidljiva u oglasu ... to je već bilo sumnjivo.
Stiže mi odgovor:

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Thanks for your response. EURO 3000 is a nice and acceptable price. I will
be adding the 3.9% PayPal surcharge to the total amount i will be
paying you. So i will be paying directly into your PayPal account
without any delay, and i hope you have a PayPal account.
If you have one already, just send me the address to send it to, which
is the email address you use for it or you can send me a PayPal money
request, so once i receive the details i will go ahead with the
payment through PayPal and then i will contact my shipping company
after you get the payment. I will need your home address for the
merchandise to be Picked Up by the Shipping Company.
Have a nice day.


Pošaljem mu svoju Paypal adresu kao odgovor.

Slijedi njegov sljedeći odgovor:

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I will need you to email your PayPal details for the payment or you
can send me the Paypal money request to my email.
romeojefter1@gmail.com
PayPal Name
PayPal Email
Awaiting all this details for your payment,
Thanks.
Romeo


HM ... sumnjivo Lik traži da ja od njega zatražim uplatu ? valjda mu teško upisat moj email i uplatit ... :)
Ajd dobro ... odem na Paypal i zatražim (request) 3000 e od njega.
Slijedi odgovor:

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I have receive the PayPal invoice..Thank you for your anticipated
cooperation and make sure you end the item listing immediately.I will
be sending the payment shortly and i will email you when am done with
it.More so you will be notify by PayPal in your email address after i
make the payment,so just make sure you check your email often and
often to confirm payment when it is completed., Thanks.


Ubrzo zatim nova poruka:

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Hello.
 I have just completed the Payment and i am sure you have received the confirmation from PayPal regarding the Payment.You can check your PayPal e-mail for confirmation of payment. a total of €3,650 was sent, €3,000 for the merchandise with PayPal charges and the extra €600 for my shipper's charges and €50 for western union charges and am sure you notice that you will be sending  €600 to the address below via western union.
Name : Gabriel Chinedu
Address: 24 Cardena De La Torres.
City: Quito.
Country: Ecuador.
All other documentations should be prepared by my Pick Up Agent. You should send the money soon so that the Pick Up would be scheduled and you would know when the Pick Up would commence, make sure you're home. I advice you to check both your inbox or junk/spam folder for the payment confirmation message..My shipper would be coming around to your area to have the merchandise picked up once you have sent the shipping charges fee to them.I will be waiting to hear from you once the money has been sent to my shipper.
Thanks for the business.
Best Regards.
Romeo


Također stiže i obavijest od Paypala da sam primio novce.

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This e-Mail confirms that you have received an Instant payment of €3,650.00 EUR from Romeo Jefter via PayPal MERCHANDISE Payment Service.
Reversals : This method of payment can not be reversed.
Status : Pending - Transport Company Awaiting Payment.


Hm poruka je lažna ... evo cijeli source (izmjenjena samo moja mail adresa):

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Return-Path: rmathias27@gmail.com
Received: from mail-qg0-f68.google.com ([209.85.192.68])
   by mail.wisp.hr
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Subject: PayPal Instant Payment Received from Romeo Jefter(Transaction ID-3CP879375C758570E)
From: "service@paypal.com" <paypalverify@verify-team.com>
To: neko@wisp.hr
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133cdb04bb3b10504fb3585


Hm ... Return-Path: rmathias27@gmail.com (Poslao ju je sa druge e-mail adrese)
Još jači HM ... From: "service@paypal.com" <paypalverify@verify-team.com>
Vlasnik adrese se predstavlja kao "pravi paypal" service@paypal.com , ali da nebi slučajno odgovorio na taj mail return adresa je lažna paypalverify@verify-team.com
I naravno u poruci se spominje 3650 e , a nepotvrđeni iznos na Paypalu je 3000 e.
ALI ... stiže mi obavijest od mog e-mail servera da sam primio poruku sa virusom !!!

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The message below contained a virus and did not
reach some or all of the intended recipients.
   From: "service@paypal.com" <paypalverify@verify-team.com>
   To: mojmail@negdje.hr
   Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 03:51:47 -0700
   Subject: How to Complete Your Recent Transaction (Transaction ID: 3CP879375C758570E)

hMailServer


Normalno moj server ju je obrisao.
Google kaže da je adresa paypalverify@verify-team.com čisti scamware ... prevara :)
https://www.google.hr/?gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&q=paypalverify%40verify-team.com
Skračeni odgovor:
It is a scam. PayPal do not hold funds pending an action from someone. If you have been sent a payment it will show in your PayPal account within minutes of it being sent.
Tipična SCAM prijevara ... kao što google kaže :D .
Hm ... izgleda kao nekakav haker ... :D Bit će zanimljivo ...
Uostalom glupan nemože znati da mi je server u istoj sobi gdje i ja :D . svakako sam brzo napravio na serveru update antivirusa.
I zanimljivi dio sa adresom njegovog "shipera" kojemu bih ja trebao platiti troškove dostave (pa će ih on meni vratiti :D ). To je vjerovatno pravo ime i prezime lopine ili neki njegov lik sa kojim dijeli lovu!

Name : Gabriel Chinedu
Address: 24 Cardena De La Torres.
City: Quito.
Country: Ecuador.


MISLIM ALARM se upalio totalno !!! Ja da njemu šaljem novce preko Western Uniona ? HALO tko je tu lud?
Sa novcima na Paypalu nemogu raspolagati (status pending) dok ih lik ne potvrdi.
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Šaljem mu mail da potvrdi uplatu.
Šalje mi odgovor:

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As per the e-mail PayPal sent to me which is also similar to yours, you will have to pay €600 out of your own pocket through western union to my shipper address given to you..i think you can also find a western union office in any bank near you,that way you can send the €600 at once.
After you send the money €600 through western union a receipt will be given to you at the western union office.
So you will scan the western union receipt and address it to a mail then reply to PayPal confirmation email with it.
Once you do that then PayPal verify the western union detail and confirm everything valid then they will release your total amount into your account include the western union charges.
I hope you understand now.
Thanks.
Romeo


Odgovaram mu da ne razumijem zašto ja trebam platiti 600 e njegovom shipment agentu i šalje mi sljedeči odgovor:

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Hello Ddamir.
I want you to know that i would have paid the courier agent directly if they accept payment through PayPal but they only accept payment through Western Union and there is no Western Union agent in my present location . I want you to know that you can help me out since PayPal is going to release the total money of €3,650 into your account after they confirm the receipt of the Western Union that you have transferred the €600 since PayPal only need to confirm that you send the money before they can release all the money into your account include the western union charges.I hope you understand now. I will be glad if you can help with this . It is a pleasure doing business with you.
Regards.
Romeo.


Dakle njegov agent ne prima uplate preko paypala samo western uniona ... A kod njega nema western uniona ... i novci će mi biti oslobođeni (na Paypalu) nakon što agent potvrdi primitak novaca.

Mislim stvarno šuplja priča ... on nema drugog načina da plati agenta ... pa neka ga ja platim i to će mi se automatski vratit na paypalu :)
Joj al ga lik sere. ;)
Normalno da je lopov ... e sad zovem policiju da vidim dali mogu prijavit potencijalnu prijevaru ... u toku ... nakon nešto objašnjavanja (bilo je kasno navečer) objasne mi da je najbolje da dođem ujutro u stanicu sa čim više dokumentacije.
Šaljem lopovu e-mail sa porukom da sam razumio ... ali pošto je kasno da mu šaljem novce drugi dan.
Na policiji ujutro mi kažu da nemogu poduzeti ništa jer "prijevara u pokušaju " ne postoji u zakonu...
Ujutro mi stiže e-mail od lopine:

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Hello Damir.
I will like to remind you of the transfer you are to make to the shipper address through western union today,so that the money can released into your account immediately and the shipper will  be able to come for the pickup.
Let me know once it's done.Waiting to read from you soon.
Regards.
Romeo.


E pa kad ti nemogu ništa drugo ... Sad ćeš vidjet malo zajebancije ! ;)
Kao što kažu oni iz Dubioza Kolektiva:
"opa opa dolazi europa ... sad će da nas biju sile svjetske policije " :)
Sad ćemo se malo igrat mačke i miša ... a glupson nek misli da je on mačka ;)

Ništa ne odgovaram do navečer ... pa mu navečer pošaljem poruku da sam bio zauzet cijeli dan , te sam tek sad poslao novce. :) Nek se majmun šeće do Western Uniona đabe. :D

Lopina se ipak javio :) valjda nemože dobit novce :lol:

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Hello Damir.
Have you send the Western Union information with the  Western Union Receipt to  PayPal for verification or you can send it to me so that i can help you to froward it to PayPal verification.
This is the following information you will need to send to PayPal for verify of the payment.
 1.  Sender  Name
2.  Receiver Name
3.  MTCN  ;
4.  Amount
5.  Western Union Receipt :
Thanks and i will be waiting the western union details.
Romeo.


Neka vol još malo čeka da trava naraste. :D
HM ... ipak ga idem još malo ebayat :) nek se budalina šeće da nabije kondiciju :)

Poslao sam mu poruku da sam lovu poslao na grad City: Ouito.
kao "slučajna greška" umjesto pravog grada City: Quito. ;)

Upravo sam poslao e-mail paypalu da me lik pokušava prevariti ... to bi njih valjda trebalo više zanimat ... kad već naša policija nemože ništa sa takvim likovima.
Čekam odgovor. Vikend nema odgovora .

Predvečer se opet javio (Valjda nakon šetnje do Western Uniona :D :

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I We need you to email me the western union copy


He he izgleda da se umorio šetajući i čekajući lovu :D a možda je postao sumnjičav ...
Odgovorio sam mu da nemam skener ... sutra skeniram kod frenda pa mu šaljem...
Danas ujutro novi e-mail : (Valjda je nestrpljiv da digne lovu) :lol:

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Hello Damir.
You can send me the details inside the western union copy and here is the details you will need to send for verify of the payment.
1.  Sender  Name
2.  Receiver Name
3.  MTCN  ;
4.  Amount
Thanks and i will be waiting the western union details.
Romeo.


Eh budalina :lol: Meni se više neda ebayat budalu ... iako imam još ideja ... kao npr. poslat mu krivotvorenu uplatnicu ... pa nek se budala svađa na šalteru Western Uniona :lol: al to mi je ipak previše posla za ovu zajebanciju sa budalinom :lol:

Slijede pripreme za završni udarac po sistemu "sjekirom među rogove" . :D
Dakle šaljem mu sljedeći e-mail:

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Dear stupid cheater!
It is known that there here in Croatia is lot of fools, but you're not lucky.
I'm not a fool.
You selling me empty stories that I pay your shipper, while you're on PayPal not confirmed that
is my money. Your story that you don have Western Union and your "shiping agent" dont  have
paypal is so stupid that even a donkey would not have believed.
E-mail address paypalverify@verify-team.com is known like scamers email address.
Paypal has nothing with Western Union.
You sent me SMS mesages from false number.
So you just try to steal my money.
Well stupid asshole instead money, you only can suck my dick. :)
As compensation for such bullshit I just sent you false payment so that you walk to Western
Union.
I wish you the best of luck in the future and as quickly as possible end up in jail where you
belong.
Instead of my bike or money, I sending you this beautiful horse dick, to have fun with them you
and your mother.
You can put this beautiful 1 horsepower wherever you want, you mother also, and be "Big
cheef" in your village.
Also here is you in this nice video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gROO7xSTxfY

Have nice day,big fun with this horse dick, lot of viruses and fuck off!
PS I hope that your legs do not hurt too much by walking to Western Union :)


Ovo je slika koju sam poslao "Romeu"
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Ovo je video prikaza "vještog hakera Romea"


Trkni magare malo do Western uniona a poslje pasi travu. ;)
Eto to je bilo par dana zabave sa varalicom!
Još se valjam po podu od smijeha :lol: :lol: :lol:

DODATAK:
Budalina se prestao javljati - vjerovatno se zabavlja sa 1 konjskom snagom :D .
Paypal se nije javio zasad na moju pritužbu.

SKRAĆENA VERZIJA:
1.Provjerite broj sa kojeg ste dobili poruku.
2.Provjerite emailove koje dobijate.
3.Uvijek koristite dobar antivirus i redovito ga obnavljajte kao i dobar antimalvare npr. Malwarebytes Anti-Malware.
4.UPALITE MOŽDANE VIJUGE - glavu na ramenima koristite za razmišljanje , a ne da vam kiša ne pada u želudac, nemojte imati memoriju kao glasači HDZ-a ILI SDP-a ... tj memoriju kišne gliste. ;)
Znači ne nasjedajte na priče "kako prije dobivanja novaca treba podmiriti neke sitne troškove". :D
5. Ako imate volje priuštite si zafrkanciju kao i ja ... :D
6.Provjerite sumnjivu adresu na našem novopokrenutom antispam forumu http://antispam.wisp.hr/

damirb
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Joined: February 11th, 2015, 2:20 pm

Re: Neuspješan pokušaj prevare - Paypal i Njuškalo

Postby damirb » January 29th, 2016, 2:16 pm

Eh to je bilo zabavno ... ali nastavak priče ide ovako ...

KAKO ME JE NAMAGARČIO DOMAĆI LOPOV

LOPOV: KRISTIJAN POLJAK (nadimak Salko) iz Slavonskog broda

Eh normalno domaće lopove-cigane je daleko teže prokužiti kad te hoće prevariti .
Dakle preko facebooka me lopovčina kontaktirao za zamjenu , slike kako je teklo pregovaranje i cijeli tijek pregovora slijedi.
Napomena : bilo je tu naravno još nešto i SMSova i telefoniranja koje naravno nemogu dokumentirati.
Uglavnom se svodilo na potvrđivanje i hvaljenje svojeg motora.

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Napravili smo zamjenu, obavili papirologiju i doplatio mi je 1000 E.
Naravno mašina je brzo prolupala.
Na SMS da me je prevario se pravi mutav. "Nemoguće to je sve profesionalno složeno"
Dakle lopina je lagao o uređenoj mašini . Naravno "sklepana" je da radi tek neko vrijeme. Nisam prešao niti 3000 km u nekih par mjeseci od "trgovine" i mašina je "prolupala" , tj skoro se razletila na sasvim normalnoj vožnji na ZG obilaznici pri 120 km/h. Naravno čim sam primjetio stao sam i vučnom službom dovukao motor doma da izbjegnem veću štetu.

Kako je zvučala mašina poslušajte i sami:


Naravno rastavljena mašina pokazuje kao izgledaju "novi profesionalno ugrađeni djelovi".
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Moj Marauder kojeg je prefarbao i prodao dalje izgleda ovako:
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Naravno lopovima posao cvate i dalje :) - laže da je drugi vlasnik - treći je , a smanjio je i kilometražu ja sam mu ga prodao sa 85000 km :)
Posao cvate ! Dok ima budala bit će i para. :) Nedozvolite da lopovi prave budale od vas.

Pouka:
1.Pazite od koga kupujete vozilo (google, raspitajte se isl.) u ovakvom slučaju vas nebi spasio niti mehaničar !!!
2 Svoja neugodna iskustva podijelite na internetu tako da čim veći broj ljudi dozna za varalice.Obavezno čuvajte dokaze (e-mail prepisku dokumente i sl) te kod objavljivanja napravite ovakve " screenshotoove" , jer rekla kazala sistem ne vrijedi nigdje. Podijelite sa drugima da takvima već jednom prevare prestanu funkcionirati. Budući da kod nas sudovi ne rade nemožete se niti nadati odšteti. Lopov i tako sve što ima glasi mu na ženu tako da je u slučaju tužbe naplata totalno neizvjesna.Tako je i ovaj motor glasio na ženu.Vjerovatni razlog je taj što mu ovo nije prvi put pa već ima stare dugove.
3.Učite na tuđim greškama - ovaj put na mojim. Moja greška me košta 700 eura. :(


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